Interview with GORGONIZED DORKS (made by Col from Sickener)

[I’ve done an interview with Katz during the first months of this blog and since then I can call him a friend and a costant inspirations for what I do. Col from Sickener has done this interview with him, and I’m really glad to have Katz on this page again. As before, I have to thank Col for his work and suggest you to spend some minutes reading his good chat with the mighty Katz, talking about one of the best noise bands around nowdays : Gorgonized Dorks! ndPete]

Not fully sure how I initially discovered Gorgonized Dorks (possibly one of many “random purchases” from a distro I used to order from)…All I know for definite is they were one of a handful of bands which INSTANTLY blew me away on first listen. Extremely prolific and showing no sign of slowing down (Katz himself states in the interview they’ve almost 90 releases out to date with more to come),  they constantly push the envelope with each release. Not a band to get bogged down in sub-sub-sub-genres, they describe themselves primarily as a punk band and, therefore leave themselves open to bring a wide variety of influences to the table. Choose any 3 G. Dorks releases and I guarantee each one of them will sound COMPLETELY different to the last! Interview conducted with Katz via email.

Col: Hey, Katz, what’s up? Cheers for agreeing to the interview! Boring shit first: who are G. Dorks? Where did you guys get the name from?

KATZ:  Thank you so very much for your interest in Gorgonized Dorks and doing this interview for your zine.
Yeah, it was obviously taken from an early song title by the highly prolific Belgian mincecore masters, Agathocles.  It was a name that our drummer Ben had wanted to use for a band name for quite some time, really.  It is also appropriate in that both Ben and I are fans of Agathocles and have many of their releases in our collection.

Col: When did the band initially form? What inspired you guys to play this style of music?

KATZ:  The band officially formed back on 25 January 2005, when we first got together in a Culver City rehearsal room to make our first batch of noisecore and grind together.  The band was supposed to be with other people that Ben had asked to do this project with, but none of them were reliable and never came through for him, until he asked me to do this project with him.  With the dissolution and the death spiral with my previous band (who shall not be named), I took this opportunity to start over fresh again and continue on the path that had stalled with my old band and get totally inspirational with G. Dorks.
Being that both Ben and I have been into underground sounds for a very long time, we have been influenced by all manner of stuff that we have listened to over our lifetime.  Our initial noisecore influences are usually from the likes of Anal Cunt, 7 Minutes Of Nausea, Gerogerigegege, early Meatshits, Fear Of God, Patareni, etc…  We would also incorporate other diverse sounds into our set like: experimental harsh noize, black metal, gothic, doom, and good ole hardcore punk rock of our youth…

Col: G. Dorks are extremely fucking prolific! How do you manage to keep your sound “fresh”? Of all the releases you’ve done, which is your own personal favourite?

KATZ:  It is through experimentation and exploring all the other diverse sounds that we can do and incorporating it in a rather frankenstein manner to see what we can get.  We would dispense with alot of the conventional and try something a little off skewed to make things interesting and add flavour to what would otherwise become stale and mediocre.  It’s really hard to keep things sounding fresh when constrained by boundries and limitations.
Too many releases to really pick one out of the bunch, and also that we put out stuff of diverse sounds, as well…  I think we did pretty brutal on the grindthrash with our split 10″ep with Godstomper.  Ben also likes our split 7″ with Xanax Feast, too.  Our split 7″ with the legendary 7 Minutes Of Nausea is crucial, too.  Of our better noisecore releases, I would probably say our split tape with Mancruel would be one of the better ones that we’re happy with.  Our “Two-Headed Beast Of Noize” double 3″ pro-cdr and “Sinister Audio Destruction Machine” tape is a good combination of both our noise and noisecore stuff on one release.  I really also like our split cdr with Kenji Siratori for our noise stuff.  With almost 90 releases out to date, it’s pretty hard to pick one, really…

Col: You’ve done shitloads of splits over the years with some amazing bands (Deche-Charge, Unholy Grave, Agathocles….)-how does it feel to have the opportunity to do releases with the “legends” of the grindcore/noisecore scene? Are there any bands you wouldn’t do a split with?

KATZ:  Yeah, we were pretty lucky in that we have been able to share split releases with many a well known bands.  It came from all of the years of correspondences with said bands, too.  It’s really amazing that they even agreed to do a split with us as we still think of ourselves as little bugs floating in a giant pond.  LOL
We have yet to come to such a decision about not doing a split with certain bands…  It would be based on a case to case basis, though obviously we would not be working with bands with blatant fascist tendencies.

Col: I remember seeing an interview with you guys where you said you’ve only ever done a handful of live shows… Any particular reason for this? Do you personally feel it’s necessary for a band to play live?

KATZ:  To date, we’ve done only 11 shows…  The lack of shows we’ve been able to do is usually do to logistical reasons.  It is kind of hard to do shows when we live over 200km from each other and that Ben works long hours to where his work schedule leaves little time for anything else.  Though we may have made a larger impression in the worldwide scene at large, we are pretty much detached from our local scene to where we’re pretty much a non-issue to most of the local hipster crowd who are too busy playing “popularity contest” to even bother with us.  We don’t care…
I think it is important to at least make some attempt at doing a live performance if one does not want to be just a mere “studio project”…  It kind of separates you from the myriad of mediocre “studio projects” filling up the internet desperate for someone to pay any attention to their stuff that sound identical to the next guy’s online files…  It’s important to a certain degree, but really not all that necessary, really…  It just depends on how far you want to take your band.

Col: G. Dorks are a pretty experimental band and you always incorporate a wide variety of styles into your particular brand of noise. What other styles of music do you guys take influence from? Also, some of your live shows seem to incorporate elements of performance art – is this something you’re interested in?

KATZ:  Yeah, we get really experimental with our stuff…  We try to push the proverbial envelope with what we are doing, as we want to see what mind-blowing things we can attempt.  We dig deep into our psyche in order to dredge up whatever inspirations we can tap into from the depths of the dark corners of our mind.  People would see us where our eyes would be rolling around in the back of our heads, tranced out in an altered state, or notice that we seem “not quite there”…  It incorporates things like dadaism and primal scream therapy kind of stuff in alot of what we do.
Yeah, we try to incorporate a tiny bit of performance art into our set, as it’s kind of boring sometimes just watching a noisecore or harsh noise act, unless you are one who can also harmonize with the vibrations we are generating.  The band is just the two of us, and we have to add a little stage flair along with it or we would be just a pair of boring fucks making shit noises on stage…

Col: You guys take a pretty improvisational approach when it comes to recording from what I’ve heard. Any particular reason for this? Do you feel this approach to recording helps or hinders how your releases sound?

KATZ:  We would prefer to be able to rehearse and do stuff like normal bands do but again it is all of the logistical problems I mentioned earlier, where distance and schedules hamper things, that keep us from doing things in a standard manner.  With it being improvisational, it hones our inspirational powers and help put the both of us on the same psychic vibrational levels.  It’s important that we be both on the same proverbial page.
It helps in our sound to where the inspirations and output of our rage is pure and immediate.  There is this “stream of consciousness” process that takes place, and we just let it control what we are doing in the physical world.

Col: How would you describe G. Dorks to a) a punk fan and b) an elderly relative who’d never heard you guys?

KATZ:  a) We’re a punk band…  LOL
b) We make horrible noises…  LOL

Col: What other projects have you guys got on the go aside from Gorgonized Dorks?

KATZ:  I have a solo noise project that I have been doing since 1994, called humanextermination project.  Ben also has another band, Doomed Species, which is a grindcore power-violence duo with Trevor (formerly of Sabu).  They have some unreleased demoes of which you can hear some tracks on their myspace page, and they have also done a couple of gigs, too.

Col: You’ve been involved in the “scene” for years, man, through bands like Hated Principles, doing Gothic Gospel Records and contributing to Flipside. How have you managed to stay interested for so long? What initially attracted you to the scene?

  Yeah, I’ve been lingering around the scene since around 1979, really.  It’s pretty easy to get burnt out in the scene if you just stick to one style and one style only…  If the scene is but one sliver of the whole and it’s all one is invested in, then they obviously is going to get bored with that one sound and then move on, or if their little sliver falls apart and disappears on them, then they’re stuck with nothing.  Over the decades, I’ve spent time checking out and hanging out in the various scenes in the underground.  Not putting the proverbial “eggs in one basket” meant that I never got burned out on one sound, as I would find some other sound to bide my time with, and so forth…  It’s better to have a diverse taste in musick rather than a narrow taste in musick…  There is so much more out there that one could never imagine, really…  Just take the time to see what potential stuff is out there.

Col: Speaking of Gothic Gospel, when and why did you decide to start the label? How do you decide what to release? Anything coming up in the next while we should be on the lookout for?

KATZ:  Like with anyone who starts a label, it is usually due to lack of other label’s interest in what you are doing.  If one sits like a log and does nothing to promote their musick, then it’s not really going to go anywhere.  It just remains another ignored online audio file.  It’s the DIY (do it yourself) spirit of punk rock that is key to starting your own label.  It also means you are more serious than the next guy when starting your own label to promote your own band (and of your friend’s) because it shows that you are not sitting idle just waiting on someone to come and “discover” your stuff by divine intervention and whisk you off to rockstardom…  Not going to happen.  You only get what you put into it.
I primarily release stuff by my bands, usually when I have the money and resources to do it.  If it is something I really really wanted to become reality, then I would work my butt off in order for it to become reality, which is with the case with our split 6″ lathe-cut EP with Deche-Charge.
The next release on my label will be a co-produced split tape/3″cdr release with xAOAx, from Needles, California.  It will be released with Jerk Off Records and others.

Col: You’re a serious record collector right? How big is the collection these days? If your house was on fire and you could only save 5 records, which ones would they be and why?

KATZ:  I usually would jokingly refer to myself as a “record collector by default”, as I don’t really get all that hyperactive over trying to collect everything as inhumanly as possible.  My collection is big because it just ended up that way over the decades that I have been into punk/underground, especially my years doing record reviews for Flipside Magazine, of which I had participated in from 1984 through 2000!  If you can crank out as many as 135 reviews per issue, the total number of records added to your collection can build up very fast.
I think I have around 7000+ records, tapes, and cd’s in my collection.  I do stash away extra copies of some releases for trade, of which I just let it sit boxed up to which I retrieve a couple decades later for trading and stuff…  Trading is cool, as it’s all a part of the communication process.
If my house burns down, then my house burns down…  That’s just fate.

Col: As a record collector, how do you feel about the rise of sites such as Bit Torrent and blog sites dedicated to sharing downloads of previously hard-to-find gems?

KATZ:  It’s good in one sense in that more people, usually the newer kids getting into the scene today, can finally hear some of the rarities that just a generation earlier one had to spend enormous amounts of money for an original copy, or waste time on crap tape dubs of…  The only downside is if a legitimate current release exists that is getting pirated online, which just ends up being a bummer for the label, who had invested thousands of bux in it that some kids swipe online for free.  Another downside are kids who feel they are entitled to any recording, and just become total dickheads about it.  Case in point is one time I was on a punk message board, discussing some long gone, obscure and rare scandinavian hardcore records to which I get hassled by one stupid upper middle class git who demand me putting those audio files online somewhere for them to download for free!  Me being really piss poor and not having such technology onhand (I’m online via dial-up connection on the archaic webtv format) that I couldn’t upload any digitized audio files online, and even if I did I still wouldn’t as it’s such a labourous and time-consuming process on my part that why should some rich spoilt dipshit in the nice part of town deserve such effort on my part for her idle fascination…  That just incensed the turd even further, to where I got a barrage of board flames from said lazy moron.  Obviously, I never went back to that board ever again…

Col: Considering how long you’ve been involved in the punk scene, you must of seen your fair share of “legendary” bands live. What’s the best gig you’ve ever been to? What’s the worst?

KATZ:  Ah yeah…  I’ve seen many a killer show in my time in the scene.  Some of these would be:
Black Flag, Blasters, Suburban Lawns, Fear & Saccharine Trust in 1980.
Fear, Plugz, Flesheaters, Gun Club, Middle Class & others in 1981.
The Residents & Wall Of Voodoo on Halloween night, 1982.
45 Grave, Social Distortion, Symbol Six & Funeral in 1982.
Siouxsie And The Banshees & Test Dept. in 1984.
SS Decontrol, Minutemen & others in 1983.
Die Kreuzen in 1983.
PIL, Social Distortion, Butthole Surfers & Black Athletes in 1983.
Septic Death, Condemned To Death & others in 1984.
Dead Kennedys, BGK, Riistetyt, Raw Power, Solucion Mortal & Reagan Youth in 1984.
BGK, Cause For Alarm, Adrenalin OD in 1984 (the following night!)
Motorhead, Wendy O. Williams & Megadeth in 1984.  (I was Motorhead’s backstage security & I helped make Wendy’s vegan dinner!)
Conflict, DOA, Upright Citizens (w/2 bassists & 2 guitarists!), Raw Power & Government Issue in 1985.
Johnny Thunders in 1986 (I was his valet)
Celtic Frost & Voivod in 1986.
Dark Angel, Possessed, Death Angel in 1986.
Soulside & Underdog in 1987.
SNFU, Infest & others in 1989.
“Fiesta Grande #1 & 2” @ Gilman St. Warehouse.
Lena Lovich, Ausgang, Cinema Strange, Ex-Voto & others in 2006, in NYC (I was also club dancefloor DJ, too)
etc…  Too many to name…  LOL

Col: Do you have a particular band or album that constantly inspires you to create music? If so, what is it?

  Not really…  Though, the first band to inspire me to pick up a guitar back in the mid-80’s was the classic Italian hardcore thrash band, Raw Power.  I was all blown away while listening to an early rough mix tape i got from the band of “Screams From The Gutter”, and I ran out the door seeking out my first guitar.

Col: What’s your all-time favourite book or movie and why?

KATZ: The one book that stayed with me the longest would have to be “UFO’s: Past, Present and Future”…  It was from the 70’s and the stuff and images in there stuck with me ever since.  To this day I still have a fascination with conspiracy theories and the paranormal.
The one movie that seems to resonate with me at this moment, due to current socio-political situations, would be the dystopian flick, “Soylent Green”…  It is the most likely future I could see, in our current state of decay and death spiralling.  The grey, bleak existence is what we have to look forward to, sadly…

Col: What’s your opinion on the sudden increase in popularity of both grindcore and noisegrind these days? What are some bands currently doing the rounds that have impressed you?

KATZ:  I’ve not really noticed a rather increased shift in popularity in grindcore these days.  It seems relatively at the same level as it was a year ago and a year ago before that.  I really don’t know as both Ben and I are pretty isolated in where we are, so the world seem to go their way while we go our own way…
I wish I had the money to check out and get more releases from current bands today, but since I don’t have a current favorite at the moment.  I know Ben is pretty impressed with Parlamentarisk Sodomi from Norway.  I’ve not heard their stuff, either.  Oh well…

Col: What’s next for Gorgonized Dorks? Gigs, releases, etc….

KATZ:  We have one tentative gig in August, and we may plan for a couple more in September, when Ben has some vacation time.  We’ll see, as nothing is written in stone and plans always change.
With releases, there are a myriad of tape and cdr releases in the works…  When they come out I have no idea…  They will come out when they come out.  We also have a 6-song 7″ on Hirntrust, out of Austria, that will be totally killer.  We are also hoping by the end of the year our split 7″ with CSMD, on the Russian label Core Records; our split 7″ with Disleksick, on the Canadian label Coffin Crawl Records; and others will come to fruition by that time.

Col: Alright man, that’s all I got! Thanks again for agreeing to the interview. Anything you wanna add?

  You are very welcome!  I hope you glean some useful info from our interview.
To all those out there reading this, go out make noize, start a band, start a label, get involved, network, put out our stuff, communicate, be productive, keep the spirit of underground DIY alive, etc…  Need I say more?  LOL


~ by petetheripper on December 13, 2011.

2 Responses to “Interview with GORGONIZED DORKS (made by Col from Sickener)”

  1. wow… yeah, i kinda remember doing this interview like a year ago. much has happened since then, and we’re already up to 115 releases and have done several more gigs since. it’s still informative to those wanting some insight into g.dorks, though. cheers! 😀

  2. Yeah, I know-sorry it took so long getting the damn thing published Katz. Heh!

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